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		<title>How Many Web Designers &#8220;don&#8217;t believe in SEO&#8221;?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br />We have written previously about web designers, and the different types we come across in our work, from the &#8220;SEO friendly&#8221; who not only understand and embrace the concept of SEO and optimising sites for the engines, and work in close contact with SEO&#8217;s for the benefit of their clients. These guys are generally the [...]<br /><br /><br />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>We have <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2008/01/23/seos-web-designers-compare-and-contrast/">written previously about web designers</a>, and the different types we come across in our work, from the &#8220;SEO friendly&#8221; who not only understand and embrace the concept of <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/seo-sem.html" target="_blank">SEO</a> and optimising sites for the engines, and work in close contact with SEO&#8217;s for the benefit of their clients. These guys are generally the cream of the <a href="http://d3r.com/" target="_blank">web design</a> industry, and could do every bit as good a job as most SEO&#8217;s but just dont have the time.</p>
<p>..<em>Through</em> to the &#8220;SEO skeptical&#8221; types who have reservations, but are at least <em>open to the idea in theory</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;But <em>rarely </em>in this day and age do you come across the absolute dinosaurs who:</p>
<blockquote><p> <em><strong>&#8220;simply </strong><strong>do not believe that there is any such thing</strong>.</em>.&#8221;  <img src='http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>This would actually be immensely funny, if it were not:</p>
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<li><strong>true</strong></li>
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<li><strong>sad</strong></li>
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<li><strong>for the fact that we&#8217;ve had to battle tooth and nail with one in particular now, for several months.</strong></li>
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<p>This morning, as the new site was going live, and supposed to be a controlled migration using 301&#8242;s from the old site pages, this particular individual was telling my client (and friend) that:</p>
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<li><strong>a) <em>there is no such thing, its all bullsh*t.<br />
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<li><strong>b) <em>it is luck alone where google place you in the index</em></strong></li>
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<li><strong>c) <em>you have to pay to be at the top</em></strong></li>
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<li><strong>d) <em>my friend (client only in that we are doing the work, he is an old old friend and we are not even charging him) is being duped.</em> </strong> <img src='http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
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<p>wtf??!!  ..on top of this, for <strong><em>months now</em></strong> we have been stressing in multiple (unpaid for emails) over and over again the <em>absolute importance</em> of not going live before the appropriate .htaccess with 301&#8242;s is working correctly.</p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;THIS MUST NOT HAPPEN&#8221;</strong></em> &#8230; lol.   ..so yesterday what happens?</p>
<p>..the <strong>site: search</strong>  shows a new index page installed, DNS switched across , and 7 x 404 errors  on the Google cached old pages ffs.</p>
<p>&#8230;Apparently it&#8217;s not important anyway, because <em><strong>&#8220;he doesnt believe in SEO&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p>What can you do? ..so this leads us to ask the question:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Just how many web designers out there</strong> <strong>actually &#8220;don&#8217;t believe in SEO&#8221; ?  </strong></em></p>
<p><em>..Seriously, how can someone even dare to call themselves a &#8220;professional web designer&#8221; in this day and age,  and never mind not understanding the importance of SEO, but &#8230;. &#8220;<strong>not believe in it&#8221;??</strong> </em></p>
<p><em>..I mean we&#8217;re not talking about religion or fairy tales where there is any element of reasonable doubt ??<strong><br />
</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>..is this just some  random isolated dinosoar on a far flung island who hasnt looked at the internet for the last ten years?  Or is it a deep seated feeling or belief held by outdated webbies who feel threatened by the new age?</p>
<p><img src="http://filebox.vt.edu/artsci/geology/mclean/Dinosaur_Volcano_Extinction/media/cretdawS.gif" width="325" align="left" height="191" />Either way the SEO Meteor will be causing their extinction all too soon we think&#8230;</p>
<p>This particular one is certainly <em>far more</em> interested in anyone who should randomly happen to chance across the site knowing that it has passed &#8220;strict validation tests&#8221; on every page, and thereby immediately leaching off <strong>2 /11 </strong>ths of any available pagerank (from every page) to &amp; w3.org, (and another 2/11ths to macromedia and himself) than of improving it&#8217;s chances of ever getting seen in the first place.</p>
<p>But then of course, its <strong>&#8220;just luck&#8221;</strong> anyway isnt it? <img src='http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   truly, we are <em>speechless</em>.</p>
<p>&amp; the world is flat too I suppose ?? <img src='http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>So if you</em> are in the market for a new website, whatever you do, <em>make absolutely sure your web designer is not one of these</em> &#8220;I dont believe in SEO&#8221; types, because truly, even in this day and age, they <strong>are still out there</strong>.</p>
<p><em>really</em>, we kid you not. <img src='http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><img src="http://www.globalcultures.net/worldblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/flat-earth-society.jpg" width="300" height="326" /></p>
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