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		<title>Pagerank Sculpting &#8211; Is it Really Dead?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br />So there&#8217;s been a bit of a rumpus over this Pagerank sculpting U-Turn by MC this last couple of weeks, but even after further (unofficial) confirmation from a Googler, we, along with a few notable others, think this may still all a bit of a red herring of one kind or another, thrown to confuse [...]<br /><br /><br />]]></description>
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<p>So there&#8217;s been a <em>bit</em> of a rumpus over this <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2009/06/03/matt-cutts-pagerank-sculpting-doesnt-work-any-more/" target="_blank">Pagerank sculpting U-Turn</a> by MC this last couple of weeks, but even after <a href="http://www.everfluxx.com/google-confirms-nofollow-wont-help-flow-more-pr-to-your-other-links/#english" target="_blank">further (unofficial) confirmation from a Googler</a>, we, along with a few notable others, think this <em>may</em> still all a bit of a red herring of one kind <em>or another</em>, thrown to confuse the clamoring adoring, doting, thronging masses.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The other thing that has mainly been puzzling us about the whole furor, is the question of <em>duplicate links</em> on a page, to another page. In this situation, how is this is any different, whether we use nofollow or not?</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p><em>Remember </em>- <strong><em><a href="http://www.seo-scientist.com/first-link-counted-rebunked.html" target="_blank">we think Google only count the First link</a> </em></strong><em>anyway</em>..    ..<em>don&#8217;t</em> we?</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">So presumably this PR (or linkjuice) from the second link has been &#8220;evaporating&#8221; away all this time without anybody noticing? and if the new nofollow PR rule came in a while back, suddenly &#8220;evaporating off&#8221; a large part of the web&#8217;s collective PR..</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>..and <em>nobody noticed</em>.. ???</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">So yes, <em>maybe </em>nofollow now <em>doesn&#8217;t </em>push the PR difference back through the remaining links, but still, what&#8217;s <em>actually</em> the difference?  because linking twice to the same page is <em>also</em> link equity wasted?</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p><strong><em>Duplicate live link &#8211; value not passed on 2nd link </em></strong> <strong><em>Duplicate 2nd link nofollowed &#8211; value not passed </em></strong></p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>Why</em> was there not a similar outcry about PR (lets say linkjuice) &#8220;evaporating&#8221; each time you link to a page for the second time?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Savy <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/seo-web-design.html" target="_blank">SEOs &amp; web designers</a> have been cutting back on duplicate links on their pages for  longtime anyway, it&#8217;s a fundamental part of the <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/seo-design.html" target="_blank">SEO design process</a> to ensure that you have only the links you <em>really</em> need on each page, <em>and</em> with as much linkweight to each as possible, whilst staying user and usability focused.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Obviously <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2009/06/11/superior-seo-web-design/" target="_self">Superior SEO web design</a> is about having the right links in the right places in the <em>first</em> place though.  Nofollow usage to attempt to adjust link weighting between pages seemed to (and still does) not generally <em>hurt</em> things, but if it&#8217;s actually not doing what we all think it is, it might be a laugh to just take it off everywhere (on this, our <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/seo-experiment.html" target="_blank">experimental</a> site) and see what happens.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>If it bombs massively and that&#8217;s all we did, we&#8217;ll </strong></em><strong>know</strong><em><strong> they&#8217;re fibbing. </strong></em></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">In the meantime we&#8217;re not rushing round undoing every nofollow and refuse to believe the paranoia about it marking you as &#8220;SEO savy&#8221; either, mainly because most of what we&#8217;ve seen in the way of implementation of it, wasn&#8217;t very. And it&#8217;s just been too widely adopted to now  suddenly say:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>&#8221; hah! tricked you, down </strong></em><strong>you</strong><em><strong> go..&#8221;</strong></em></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Many sites, templates, themes, blogs and forums come with nofollow configured all the way through the coding already, these can&#8217;t <em>all </em>be labeled as <a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2009/06/13/google-profile-seo-high-risk/" target="_blank">naughty SEO profiled</a> types and Google could never tar them <em>all </em>so.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">And anyway, of course link sculpting is not dead, it was around long before nofollow was, under various other names, and using various other technologies,  so for now the essence of</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>&#8220;making each link on the page count as much as possible&#8221; </strong></em></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">..Within the rules of course, will continue to be as important as always.</p>
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<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2009/06/03/matt-cutts-pagerank-sculpting-doesnt-work-any-more/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Matt Cutts &#8211; Pagerank Sculpting Doesnt Work Any More</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2009/07/26/nofollow-are-you-taking-it-off/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Nofollow &#8211; Are you taking it off?</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2008/05/10/t3h-r3al-pr-sculpting-the-motherlink-part-i/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">T3h R3al PR Sculpting?? The &#8220;Motherlink&#8221; Part I</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2008/09/30/pagerank-crunch-wordpresscom-tags-nofollow-now/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Pagerank Crunch? &#8211; WordPress.com Tags Nofollow Now?</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2010/12/08/content-not-king-site-structure-architecture/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Content is NOT King &#8211; Structure &#038; Architecture!</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2009/02/13/seo-experiments/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">SEO Experiments</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2008/11/25/internal-pagerank-update/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">..And ANOTHER Pagerank blip?</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seoibiza.com/blog/2008/10/27/google-weekend-index/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Google&#8217;s Weekend Antics &#038; Vague Speculations</a></li></ul></div>]]></content:encoded>
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